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The Kids of 24 Sussex: Ben Mulroney’s Advice to Justin Trudeau

The Kids of 24 Sussex: Ben Mulroney’s Advice to Justin Trudeau

Ben Mulroney interviews the biggest stars and reports live from red carpets around the world. As the friendly anchor of Canada’s number one entertainment show, CTV’s eTalk, Mulroney always brings the best to what he does as a speaker, emcee, event moderator, and interviewer. Whether on stage or in front of a camera, Mulroney draws on his incredible expertise to create memorable and entertaining experiences for all his audiences. Below, Ben shares some of his earned-wisdom about growing up as the child of a Prime Minister, with new Prime Minister Justin Trudeau:

On election night, Justin Trudeau pledged to ‘be there’ for his children. Those words transported Ben Mulroney to the years he spent sharing his own dad with the nation – and prompted him to offer the new PM some choice words of advice:

“There will be some tough times for you as children of a prime minister, but Daddy will be there for you.”

When I heard Justin Trudeau speak those words to his kids during his victory speech, it took me back to when my father was given his key to 24 Sussex. We spent nearly nine years there, from 1984 to 1993. I was six when we moved in and 16 when we left.

“What was it like growing up with a dad who was prime minister?” is easily one of the top five questions I get asked. My answer hasn’t changed much in nearly 25 years: When you don’t know anything different, it’s normal. I couldn’t remember not having an RCMP detail or dignitaries and bureaucrats traipsing around the house or seeing my father on TV and in print every day. All this was par for the course.

But now, with the benefit of years away from the political spotlight and a growing family of my own, I have a different perspective.

Looking back, I can see that growing up as I did was extraordinary. When times were good, I was a witness to history in the making: I was one of the first people in North America to meet Nelson Mandela. I shook hands with Lech Walesa and Ronald Reagan. I took communion from the Pope and enjoyed tea (and a laser-light show) at Buckingham Palace.

The good times included Halloween, which at “24” was a sight to behold: We had a healthy rivalry with the Governor-General, with each home trying to one-up the other in terms of decorations and goodies. The grounds of Government House were closed for a period under Jeanne Sauvé, giving the Mulroneys a clear path to Halloween victory: bales of hay, smoke machines, spooky lighting and sound effects, plus hundreds of individual goodie bags full of homemade candy apples and full-size candy bars. When the Hnatyshyns moved in, they reopened the grounds and the Halloween battle was back on, raising the stakes – and the fun for all the kids in the neighbourhood.

When times were less happy, we leaned on each other. There were a few bomb scares and death threats that resulted in impromptu days spent playing hooky and invading my father’s office in the Centre Block of Parliament Hill. If the House of Commons wasn’t in use, we’d get tours, sometimes taking turns playing a very nerdy game of Question Period. (Fun fact: The Speaker’s seat is actually motorized and can be raised or lowered, depending on the height of the Speaker.)

Bad headlines, political battles and election campaigns – take your pick. A life in Ottawa is a series of struggles. And yes, one of them was that my dad was away a lot. Could it have been more than half the time? That seems entirely possible: Between international summits, meetings with premiers, announcements and official functions across the country, never mind the laundry list of party responsibilities – there were never enough hours in the day.

Growing up at 24 Sussex was
Growing up at 24 Sussex was “extraordinary,” writes Mulroney.


Justin has pledged to “be there” for his kids, and I naturally wonder what he means by that. If he means he will be physically present, I hope the government’s got some cloning technology the public’s not aware of, because his time will be one of the rarest commodities around.

That said, Justin could very well be a new breed of politician. He told me some time during the middle of his campaign that when the writ dropped, he instructed his team to work him harder than any politician they’ve ever worked with: He would cover more ground, shake more hands, give more speeches and meet more Canadians than anyone on the ballot. But that deal also came with the promise that, at the end of the day, whenever that came, he would have uninterrupted family time: a chance to decompress, enjoy their company, work out and sleep.

So maybe his plan is to carve out time each and every day to be with his kids. This is a laudable goal. It will also be impossible to achieve, unless he counts on FaceTime and Skype to bridge the gaps that the job inevitably will place between them.

In parenthood, intent means so much. Kids can feel intent. My parents weren’t always around, but I knew they wanted to be. I could hear it in their voices on the phone, I could feel it in their hugs upon their return from a trip and I sensed it in the time we did share together.

Like Justin, I’ve got three kids, and they don’t see Daddy nearly as much as Daddy wants to see them. Granted, I don’t have a government to run, but from a child’s perspective, my job description matters little. Whether I’m travelling for weeks at a time during awards season, hosting a charity event after work or simply working late on etalk, my kids often go to bed and then wake up without seeing my face. I realized early on that it was not about always being present all the time, it is about always being a presence.

The Mulroney family gathers for breakfast: ‘My parents weren’t always around, but I knew they wanted to be,’ Ben Mulroney says.
The Mulroney family gathers for breakfast: ‘My parents weren’t always around, but I knew they wanted to be,’ Ben Mulroney says.

I believe I know Justin well enough to say that he will do everything in his power to be as present as possible in the lives of his kids. And if I could offer a single piece of advice, it would be this: Pick your spots.

I was not allowed to watch TV on weeknights growing up (and look where I wound up!). However, I discovered a loophole in my parents’ rule: If my father was watching the news (which he did every night), surely I could not be turned away. And so, nearly every night that my dad was home, we would meet in his den – me on the floor, him in his armchair – and we would cycle through the biggies – CTV, Radio-Canada, The National and The Journal – chatting about our days during the commercial breaks.

Was he around every day? No. But then again, I don’t remember every day. I remember the days that make me smile, the ones that inspire me, the ones when I learned something worth holding onto. And most of those days involve a memory of my father. My dad picked his spots. And because he did, my childhood memories are enveloped in him.

And so I am hopeful that when all is said and done, and Canada elects a government led by someone other than Mr. Trudeau, his children will have seen as much of their dad as was possible. I hope that when they did see him, they saw a devoted father who wanted to be nowhere else than with them. And when they could not see him, I hope they felt his presence with them. And finally, I hope they remember the bad times as they will the good ones: as a family.

Ben Mulroney/Globe and Mail/November, 2015