Leadership and Social Media Expert Tim Sanders was the chief solutions officer and leadership coach at Yahoo, and is the author of four books, including the New York Times bestseller Love Is The Killer App: How to Win Business & Influence Friends. Mike Walsh prepares business leaders for what’s next as a leading authority on the intersection of emerging technologies, consumer behavior, and fast growth markets. The two sat down together recently to discuss why creative brainstorming doesn’t work; the essential habit of conscious collaboration; and why leaders need to think like designers when it comes to creating emotional experiences for customers, partners, and employees. Listen below.